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TeXhax Digest ________________________________________ Volume 2002 : Number 6

Today's Topics:

   1. UKTUG meeting, Nottingham, Saturday 12 October (David Rhead)
   2. Takashima Sanskrit Babel Hyphenation (Daniel Stender)
   3. TUGboat 22,1/2 (Mimi Burbank)
   4. TUG 2003 news, November 22, 2002 (TUG 2003 conference)
   5. \cite in footnote (Ot van Daalen)
   6. TeX development fund (TeX Development Fund)
   7. Re: \cite in footnote (Robin Fairbairns)
   8. Index entries and footnotes in LaTeX (Mark A. Sheldon)
   9. Re: \cite in footnote (Ot van Daalen)
  10. TUG news: LaTeX class at TUG'03, election (TUG office)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:52:48 +0100 (BST)
From: David Rhead <David.Rhead@nottingham.ac.uk>
To: TeXhax@tex.ac.uk
Subject: UKTUG meeting, Nottingham, Saturday 12 October

TeX users in the UK may be interested in the meeting
of the UK TeX Users Group at the University of Nottingham
on Saturday 12th October.

Further details are given at http://uk.tug.org/uk-tug/agm-2002/.

David Rhead
Information Services
University of Nottingham

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:21:52 +0200
Organization: http://freemail.web.de/
From: Daniel Stender <danielstender@web.de>
To: texhax@tex.ac.uk
Subject: Takashima Sanskrit Babel Hyphenation

Who can send me the Babel subsystem hyphenation packet for romanized transliterated Sanskrit (skttr.ldf or else)
Greetings,
D.Stender, Germany
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:51:44 -0400
To: TUGboat announcement <tug-board@tug.org>, tub-prod@csit.fsu.edu,
	office@tug.org, texhax@tex.ac.uk, tex-eds@nic.surfnet.nl,
	tug-pub@tug.org
Subject: TUGboat 22,1/2
From: Mimi Burbank <mimi@csit.fsu.edu>

For your reading pleasure - we shipped the issue to Cadmus
on Monday, Sept 9, 2002.  The contents are listed below.
This message was also sent to your mailing list on the 9th, but
evidently never arrived.   I received my copy of the issue
on September 29, and you should be receiving yours shortly.

We are working hard on the getting the December 2001 issue
together while we await the files for the 2001 Proceedings.

Let me encourage (urge?) those of you who occasionally think,
"I think I should write an article about that!" to go ahead
and write up something and submit it to tugboat@tug.org.
Our recent pleas for submissions have gratefully brought us
submissions from new sources.  Keep it up and we'll be back
on track in no time!

Mimi Burbank
(or the TUGboat production team)

				 TUGboat
		  Volume 22, Number 1/2    March/June 2001
		  ========================================

Addresses                                                       3

General Delivery
  Mimi Jett
        From the President                                      5
  Barbara Beeton
        Editorial comments                                      6
         We're late ...; CTAN and ``The treasure chest'';
        TeX Mexico User Group; Goodbye to Father Larguier;
        Some places to learn more about books and printing;
        5000 years of the written word;
        The Gutenberg Bible online;
        Xy-pic home moved to TUG;
        Legibility study online
  Jim Hefferon
        Why TeX?                                                8
  Question & Answer session with Donald Knuth,
        U.K. TUG, Oxford, Sunday, 12 September 1999            15
  How AllTeX changed the face of mathematics:
        An E-interview with Leslie Lamport, the author
        of LaTeX                                               20

Typography
  Peter Flynn
        Typographers' inn                                      23

Font Forum
  Frank Mittelbach
        Laudatio for Professor Hermann Zapf                    24
  Hermann Zapf
        My collaboration with Don Knuth and my font
        design work                                            26

Software & Tools
  Barbara Beeton
        Hyphenation exception log                              31
  Laura Elizabeth Jackson and Herbert Voss
        LyX --- An Open Source document processor	       32
  Adam H. Lewenberg
	DVII: A TeX dvi file information utility	       42

Graphics Applications
  John D. Hobby
	Drawing graphs with MetaPost			       46

Reports
 Hans Hagen
	The status quo of the NTS project		       58

Hints & Tricks
  William Adams
	The treasure chest				       67

Tutorials
  George Gratzer
	Publishing legacy documents on the Web		       74
  Denis Roegel
	Anatomy of a macro				       78

Macros
  Victor Eijkhout
	The bag of tricks				       83

LaTeX
  Frank Mittelbach
	The trace package 			               93

Abstracts
  Les Cahiers GUTenberg, Contents of issues 35/36
            (May 2000) and 37/38 (December 2000)	      100

News & Announcements
  Calendar						      103
  TUG '2001 Announcement				      105

Cartoon
  Roy Preston
      Typohol Anon                                            4

TUG Business
  Susan DeMeritt
	Minutes of TeX Users Group Annual General Meeting,
             15 August 2000, Oxford, England		      106
  Don DeLand
	Financial statement, 2000			      107
  Arthur Ogawa
	TUG Election Notice				      108
  Institutional members					      109
  TUG membership application	                              110

Advertisements
  TeX consulting and production services		      111
  Just Published: TeX Reference Manual by David Bausum        112
  Blue Sky Research					       c3

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:59:22 -0500
From: tug2003@tug.org (TUG 2003 conference)
To: texhax@tex.ac.uk
Subject: TUG 2003 news, November 22, 2002

TUG2003 CONFERENCE IN HAWAII
The Silver Anniversary -- 25 years!-- of TeX

The TeX Users Group 24th Annual Meeting and Conference is scheduled for
July 20-24, 2003 at the Outrigger Waikoloa Beach Resort, Big Island, Hawaii.
Abstracts for talks and workshops (deadline extended to 30-Nov-2002);
Posters (deadline 9-Jun-2003).  See:
http://www.tug.org/tug2003/callfor.html.

Please help to publicize TUG2003 by posting copies of the following flyer
(PDF) at your office and around your institution:
http://www.tug.org/tug2003/flyer/.

Contributions are welcome!  To find out how you can help:
http://www.tug.org/tug2003/help.html.

For details about the conference: http://www.tug.org/tug2003/
Email: tug2003@tug.org

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Message: 5
From: "Ot van Daalen" <o_van_daalen@hotmail.com>
To: texhax@tex.ac.uk
Subject: \cite in footnote
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:37:31 -0400

I have a question regarding \cite and \bibliographystyle. Dutch legal
articles have to cite like this:

This is a citation.\footnote{Author year, p. 34.}

\cite, however, places the citation in the body of the text. Of course I can
always use \footnote to put the cite in a footnote, but I thought it would
be cleaner to let \cite do the work.

However, all customized bibliographystyles I know (and can be made by
makebst) cite in the body.

Does anybody have any suggestions?

Thanks!

-- Otto

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:17:48 -0500
From: devfund@tug.org (TeX Development Fund)
To: texhax@tex.ac.uk
Subject: TeX development fund

TUG (the TeX Users Group) initiated a new project last year: a TeX
Development Fund.  It was officially announced at the TUG 2002
conference in India, and there have been a few announcements since to
comp.text.tex and other forums.

The idea is to financially support TeX-related projects to the best of
our ability.  If you are currently involved in a TeXnical project, or
have an idea for one but need a little financial assistance, please
consider applying.

Please see http://tug.org/tc/devfund/ for more information and an online
application page, or email devfund@tug.org.  The primary deadline for
applications is February 1, 2003.

Finally, we would like to acknowledge that other TeX user groups have
long established similar programs.  It is not our intention to detract
from or compete with anyone else (just the opposite!), but only to do
what we can to foster the growth of TeX.

Please repost/forward this notice to anywhere you think appropriate.

Thanks,
Kaja Christiansen, Karl Berry

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Message: 7
To: "Ot van Daalen" <o_van_daalen@hotmail.com>
cc: texhax@tex.ac.uk
Subject: Re: \cite in footnote
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 13:00:13 +0000
From: Robin Fairbairns <Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk>

> I have a question regarding \cite and \bibliographystyle. Dutch legal
> articles have to cite like this:
>
> This is a citation.\footnote{Author year, p. 34.}
>
> \cite, however, places the citation in the body of the text. Of course I can
> always use \footnote to put the cite in a footnote, but I thought it would
> be cleaner to let \cite do the work.

what's wrong with

  \newcommand{\fcite}[1]{\footnote{\cite{#1}}}

(or something slightly more complicated if you need the optional
argument to \cite)

> However, all customized bibliographystyles I know (and can be made by
> makebst) cite in the body.

the way \cite (and friends) appears is nothing to do with the
bibliography style -- that merely provides the text that the citation
is made up from.

the jurabib bundle is designed to support german lawyers' citation
style; it may be worth investigating whether it does what you need.

robin

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:09:16 -0500
From: "Mark A. Sheldon" <sheldon@psrg.lcs.mit.edu>
To: texhax@tex.ac.uk
Subject: Index entries and footnotes in LaTeX

While we're on the subject of footnotes:

Does anyone know why otherwise identical \index commands are treated
differently in footnotes and in the body of the text?  Plain index
entries seem OK, it's when the indexed item contains a command:

Eg,

\newcommand{\fooname}{{\sc Foo}}
Here is text in the body\index{Foo@\fooname} of a
document.\footnote{Foo\index{Foo@\fooname}}

Produces two distinct entries in the index:

  FOO  511
  FOO  511

When I first noticed this, I thought it was that \sc might is
differently bound in footnotes.  But here are the entries in the .idx
file:

  \indexentry{Foo@\fooname}{511}
  \indexentry{Foo@{\sc Foo}}{511}

Why is \fooname expanded in the item from the \footnote and not
otherwise?

Confession:  Yes, it's an old document and LaTeX is running in 2.0.9
compatibility mode, though it doesn't seem relevant given the expansions
above.

-Mark

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Message: 9
From: "Ot van Daalen" <o_van_daalen@hotmail.com>
To: Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk
Subject: Re: \cite in footnote
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:34:28 -0400

Thanks for all the reactions and excuse me for my slow reply. I opted for
the solution below, as it seems to be the most adaptable for future changes.
Thanks a lot however!

-- Ot

>From: Robin Fairbairns <Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk>
>To: "Ot van Daalen" <o_van_daalen@hotmail.com>
>CC: texhax@tex.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: \cite in footnote Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 13:00:13 +0000
>
> > I have a question regarding \cite and \bibliographystyle. Dutch legal
> > articles have to cite like this:
> >
> > This is a citation.\footnote{Author year, p. 34.}
> >
> > \cite, however, places the citation in the body of the text. Of course I
>can
> > always use \footnote to put the cite in a footnote, but I thought it
>would
> > be cleaner to let \cite do the work.
>
>what's wrong with
>
>   \newcommand{\fcite}[1]{\footnote{\cite{#1}}}
>
>(or something slightly more complicated if you need the optional
>argument to \cite)
>
> > However, all customized bibliographystyles I know (and can be made by
> > makebst) cite in the body.
>
>the way \cite (and friends) appears is nothing to do with the
>bibliography style -- that merely provides the text that the citation
>is made up from.
>
>the jurabib bundle is designed to support german lawyers' citation
>style; it may be worth investigating whether it does what you need.
>
>robin
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:57:53 -0500
From: office@tug.org (TUG office)
To: texhax@tex.ac.uk
Subject: TUG news: LaTeX class at TUG'03, election

A few items for your consideration.

- TUG 2003 Conference: The Silver Anniversary -- 25 years!-- of TeX
The TeX Users Group 24th Annual Meeting and Conference is scheduled for
July 20-24, 2003 at the Outrigger Waikoloa Beach Resort, Big Island,
Hawaii.  See http://tug.org/tug2003/.

NEW NEWS :) -- A beginning/intermediate class on LaTeX will take place
just before the conference, from July 15-18 at the University of Hawaii
at Hilo.  Enrollment is limited to 12.  The cost is $275 ($300 after
April 1, so register now!).  See
https://www.tug.org/tug2003/latexclass.html for more information and the
registration form.  If you have any questions about the class, please
email Sue Demeritt at susan.demeritt@tug.org.

- TUG Election:
The terms of the TUG President and of 11 members of the Board of
Directors will end as of the 2003 meeting of the TUG Board of Directors,
which will take place in conjunction with TUG 2003 in Hawaii.  Please
consider getting involved with TUG by running for the board or for
president.  Nomination forms are due by February 1; see
http://tug.org/election/ for more information.

Thank-you,

Robin Laakso (office@tug.org)
for the TUG board (board@tug.org)

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