Received: from jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.193]) by granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA13134; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:59:45 GMT Message-Id: <199512171759.RAA13134@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> Received: from nottingham.ac.uk by jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk id <01762-0@jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:57:08 +0000 From: Majordomo list server To: texhax-digest@nottingham.ac.uk Subject: TeXhax Digest V95 #18 Reply-To: TeXhax@tex.ac.uk Errors-To: owner-texhax-digest@nottingham.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:57:08 +0000 Sender: owner-texhax-digest@nottingham.ac.uk TeXhax Digest Sunday, 17 December 1995 Volume 95 : Number 018 (incorporating UKTeX Digest) Today's Topics: Re: TeX with an SGML syntax? Re: invisible printing / figure separations (TeXhax Digest V95 #16-17) Chemical TeX/LaTeX Black boxes output by LaTeX Re: TeX with an SGML syntax? December LaTeX Release Re: December LaTeX Release ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moor Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 12:46:56 +0000 Subject: Re: TeX with an SGML syntax? >if anyone is working on grafting an SGML syntax onto a new >version/implementation of TeX. To add syntax to latex so the structure of a document is checked would require somebody with deep programming understanding of TeX macros. A better way is to write documents in SGML and check and translate to latex. For the last year I have been using the QWERTZ DTD by Tom Gordon, (thomas.gordon@gmd.de) with some of the code from the Linuxdoc-SGML system. The input looks like LaTeX with SGML marking : so for example
Constructing a Compiler ... The 'format' program parses the input using the sgmls parser and generates latex, or html. The advantage is having one source to generate both printed and and web documents. It does mean that you cannot add your own macros, and maths and pictures have to be treated specially. Ian W Moor Internet: iwm@doc.ic.ac.uk Department of Computing, JANET: iwm@uk.ac.ic.doc Imperial College. +44 71 589 5111 x 48352 180 Queensgate London SW7 UK. ------------------------------ From: mackay@cs.washington.edu (Pierre MacKay) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:00:54 -0800 Subject: Re: invisible printing / figure separations (TeXhax Digest V95 #16-17) Bruce Leban (texhax 95#16) writes: > I want to be able to print a TeX file with all of the text omitted. to which Robin Fairbairns gives some interesting answers. One very effective way, if you use dvips, is the following which I used for a three-color map and accompanying page of legend text. \input colordvi \textWhite %\textBlack \let\Red=\White \let\textRed=\textWhite \let\Green=\Black \let\textGreen=\textBlack \let\Black=\White \let\BottomColor=\Green In this case the Green overlay is being printed, and the Black and Red are invisible. There is, of course a lot more to it than that, but it is pretty easy to figure out. If you want to see the results, look at Lawrence J. Bliquez, {\it Roman Surgical Instruments and Other Minor Objects in the National Museum of Naples}, 1994, Philip von Zabern, Mainz am Rhein. ISBN 3-8053-1677-1. Map at page 98. The map itself is done with TeXdraw. Fonts are Monotype Baskerville for the legend and Gill Sans and Castellar for the map. - -- %=======================================================================% | N O T I C E | | Please note the changes in address and telephone number below. | | There is no Northwest Computing Support Center any longer. | | Until further notice, I shall be continuing to provide tape | | distributions and whatever other services I can. | | | %=======================================================================% Email concerned with UnixTeX distribution software may be sent To: mackay@cs.washington.edu Pierre A. MacKay Smail: Department of Classics Emeritus Druid for Denny Hall, Mail Stop DH-10 Unix-flavored TeX University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 543-2268 (Message recorder) ------------------------------ From: Andre HECK <heck@cdsxb6.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Tue, 05 Dec 95 17:25:31 +0100 Subject: Chemical TeX/LaTeX My daughter heard that specific chemistry-oriented TeX/LaTeX packages were available, without more details unfortunately. My search in the ctan archives were unsuccessful. Anyone knows more about this matter? If so, is there any shareware available? Thanks in advance for time, attention and assistance. ah. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (Prof.) Andre HECK -+- * Phone (direct) +33-88.15.07.43 Observatoire Astronomique * Phone (Secretary) +33-88.15.07.10 11, rue de l'Universite -+- * Fax (direct/private) +33-88.49.12.55 F-67000 Strasbourg * -+- Fax (Secretary) +33-88.25.01.60 France -+- * * e-mail: heck@astro.u-strasbg.fr - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WWW: http://cdsweb.u-strasbg.fr/~heck StarWorlds: http://cdsweb.u-strasbg.fr/starworlds.html StarBits: http://cdsweb.u-strasbg.fr/starbits.html StarHeads: http://cdsweb.u-strasbg.fr/starheads.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: dejmer Marcus <dejmek@poly.polytechnique.fr> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:03:50 +0100 Subject: Black boxes output by LaTeX To whomever can help me immediately! PLEASE! Problem: My document now prints a HUGE BLACK BOX on the bottom half of EACH PAGE In my report DUE MONDAY! I have NO IDEA what I have done to INSTIGATE this reaction from my (up to this morning) loving LATEX complier! IF anyone knows how to RECTIFY this SITUATION please help me!~ I am extremely GRATEFUL to anyone who can reply! The success of my document lies in the hands of those knowledgeable few out there! Extremely desperate, Marcus DEJMEK (dejmek@poly.polytechnique.fr) ------------------------------ From: vis!greg@UCSD.EDU Date: Tue, 05 Dec 95 17:10:00 -0800 Subject: Re: TeX with an SGML syntax? From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" <beebe@math.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:13:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: TeX with an SGML syntax? J. Greg Davidson <jgd@well.sf.ca.us> asks about using SGML as a markup language in place of TeX's macro language. No, I didn't. I hate being misquoted :-(. I said: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 14:15:28 -0700 From: vis!greg@UCSD.EDU Subject: TeX with an SGML syntax? I ... wonder if anyone is working on grafting an SGML syntax onto a new version/implementation of TeX. ^^^^^^ (elision and emphasis added) and I also said: A new syntax would present a good opportunity to revamp the macro system, either replacing it with a more robust macro system (no fragile macros) or replacing it with a tcl-like functional language; the point being to make writing TeX extensions less of a black art. I find that most people I show TeX to dislike it on sight and decline my offer to help them learn to use it. At the same time, they're interested in SGML and planning to convert existing documents to and write new documents in that form. This is the source of our big opportunity. My biggest gripe about TeX is that I find writing and understanding TeX macros to be difficult. It's especially difficult to parse TeX source mechanically. I would like a programming interface with delimiters and programming symbols clearly distinguished from literal text without reference to the definitions of the macros or functions used. I would like no such thing as fragile macros. A well designed SGML-TeX would describe the syntax of its programming language in an SGML DTD, along with an initial set of formatting markups. This would go a long way towards eliminating these problems. Of course, the existing TeX is not going to go away, even if something much nicer comes along, so older documents would not need to be converted to the new syntax. As people move towards keeping documents in SGML form, they will be looking for a good text formatter to use in conjunction with their SGML documents. Although they can process SGML into TeX source, that transformation is a mysterious and fragile process. Someone trained only in SGML will be put off when they try to debug any problems that arise and they will never learn to write new macros. Thus, the power and advantages of TeX will be lost to them. As soon as they can, they will get rid of TeX. I do not expect anyone in the TeX community to make such a radical new version of TeX, and I am not offering to do it. Because of this I think that systems with much less power will continue to dominate, and TeX will fade away. But it doesn't have to be that way. _Greg J. Greg Davidson Institute for Software Research and Development +1 (619) 452-8059 6231 Branting Street San Diego, CA 92122 USA vis!greg@ucsd.edu (or greg%vis.uucp@ucsd.edu) jgd@well.sf.ca.us ***************************************************** * Member of the League for Programming Freedom. * * * * lpf@uunet.uu.net http://www.lpf.org * * E-Mail World Wide Web * ***************************************************** - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ From: David Carlisle <carlisle@CS.MAN.AC.UK> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 20:00:38 GMT Subject: December LaTeX Release December 1995 LaTeX Release ============================ The LaTeX3 Project is pleased to announce that the December Release is now available from the ctan hosts and will reach mirrors in due course. The following ctan directories are updated tex-archive/macros/latex/base % The core LaTeX sources tex-archive/macros/latex/unpacked % The core LaTeX sources, `unpacked' tex-archive/macros/latex/packages/tools % The `tools' `graphics' and tex-archive/macros/latex/packages/graphics% `mfnfss' collections of tex-archive/macros/latex/packages/mfnfss % Standard LaTeX packages. As usual the main features of the new release are documented in the newsletter ltnews04.tex. Two points deserve special mention here: * Unpacking this release should take significantly less time than has been the case for previous LaTeX releases. This is due to a new implementation of the docstrip utility that has been contributed by Marcin Woli\'nski. * When using Computer Modern Fonts in the `T1' (`Cork') encoding, LaTeX will now assume the font names of release 1.2 of the dc fonts which occurred earlier this year. If you still have the old dc fonts then you must unpack the file olddc.ins to produce suitable fd files using the old font names. This is documented in the installation guide, install.txt, but is mentioned here as it differs from previous releases. The test document ltxcheck.tex will report any problems with dc fonts if the LaTeX format does not appear to match the fonts you have installed at your site. David Carlisle For the LaTeX3 Project ------------------------------ From: David Carlisle <carlisle@CS.MAN.AC.UK> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 18:54:54 GMT Subject: Re: December LaTeX Release I said > As usual the main features of the new release are documented in the > newsletter ltnews04.tex. If you were very quick to pick up the release then unfortunately the file ltnews04.tex was missing. It was added `this morning' to all the main ctan hosts. (That is `this morning' here: The first two people to report this file missing were in Australia....) Sorry for any confusion that this caused. 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