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Nowacki, + <a href="mailto:jnowacki@uck.uni.torun.pl">jnowacki@uck.uni.torun.pl</a>. + </p> + <p> + This list contains wishes for future versions of the Latin Modern + font family (versions 0.86 to 0.92). + </p> + <p> + Wishes that will surely not be realized are + <strike>canceled like this</strike>. + </p> + + <p> + <a href="lmodern-done.html">Here, you can find these wishes that have + been realized or rejected.</a> + </p> + + <h3>How to add new items to this list</h3> + + <p> + At the moment, nobody maintains this page. Until a new maintainer is +found it is difficult to add new items. +<!-- If you like me to add a new item to this list please write a text + that describes the problem/wish. + I will include it without any change to this list. + Please tell me if your mail address may be published on this list, + too. + If possible, use html tags for special characters, e.g., + <code><code></code>...<code></code></code> for code + examples, + <code>&lsquo;</code>...<code>&rsquo;</code> for + ‘...’ etc. + Send your text to + <a href="mailto:nobody">nobody</a>. +--> + </p> + + <h3>Kerning</h3> + + <ul> + <li> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> + All kerning has been prepared from scratch. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:ralf.stubner@physik.uni-erlangen.de">Ralf Stubner</a>, + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a> (2004-07-19): + Kerning around quotation marks is problematic, see + <a href="lm-kerning-092.pdf">lm-kerning-092.pdf</a> and + <a href="lm-kerning.tex">lm-kerning.tex</a>. Note the large + corrections needed for <code>quotedblleft</code> when it is used as + German style <em>right</em> quotation mark. This is caused by the + horizontally not centered <code>quotedblleft</code>. There is a simple + solution by using <code>quotedblleft.alt</code> etc. which are + horizontally centered. We do not see any disadvantage in using + these, even not for English texts. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:olli@sopos.org">Oliver Heins</a> (2004-11-26): + Kerning between the bold and roman letters ‘t’ and + ‘l’ seems to be too big. Especially the bold version + is very ugly. Both italic and bold-italic are okay. + See + <a href="lmodern-tl.pdf">lmodern-tl.pdf</a> and + <a href="lmodern-tl.tex">lmodern-tl.tex</a>. + </li> + </ul> + + + <h3>Text fractions</h3> + + <ul> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + Superior and inferior digits, comma, and period for + arbitrary textfractions similar to textcomp's + <code>\textonehalf</code> should be added. + The solidus exists called ‘fraction’ (Thanks to + <a href="mailto:moho01ab@student.cbs.dk">Morten Høgholm</a>). + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>Not touched yet.</em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:moho01ab@student.cbs.dk">Morten Høgholm</a> + (2004-04-16): + It would be great if the `<code>solidus</code>' could + have a fake lenght so that you wouldn't need to kern all + the time; just like it is in the Adobe fonts. + </li> + </ul> + + + <h3>Single glyphs/ligatures</h3> + + <ul> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + I like the μ that is a mixture from the u and the p, as it is + in cm-super (with serifs), more than the Latin Modern μ which + does not have serifs at all. But this topic seems to be controversial. + <a href="mailto:stefan-ulrich.nntp@zen.co.uk">Stefan Ulrich</a> + does not agree. + He thinks that most greek fonts don't have a serif at the descender + of the <code>\textmu</code>. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>Not touched yet.</em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:kirpal@rz.uni-leipzig.de">Gerrit Kirpal</a>: + The degree symbol (<code>\textdegree</code>) should have the + same size as the degree sign in degree celsius + (<code>\textcelsius</code>). + It should be slightly larger than used in <code>\textcelsius</code> + but much smaller than in <code>\textdegree</code>. A ratio of 2/5 + between the diameter and the height of capitals would be nice + (in <code>\textcelsius</code>, it is 1/3 while it is 1/2 in + <code>\textdegree</code>).<br> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a> + I fully agree. + The <code>\textdegree</code> really is ugly in Latin Modern. + In addition, the outline of the ball in <code>\textdegree</code> is + too thin. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>We also agree that the present + state of the art + is unacceptable. Will be touched as soon as possible.</em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:kirpal@rz.uni-leipzig.de">Gerrit Kirpal</a>: + The circled text symbols are better than in cm-super, but they + have too thin outlines. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>Not touched yet.</em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + The <code>\pm</code> is ugly. + The original CM version is much nicer. + At least, the ‘+’ part of the sign should be + symmetrical.<br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> + Hardly implementable to full extent. Knuth constructs plusminus + by shifting plus so that its bottom touches the baseline and next + places a bar (minus) on the baseline. This works for circa half of + the LM family. In the rest of fonts the glyph would be too high + (most notably in LMBX5, LMBX6, LMSSQBX8 and LMSSQBO8). We decided + that the resulting glyph should not be higher than ascender height; + if it would, we decreased its height par force.</em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:blacktrash@gmx.net">Christian Ebert</a> (2004-01-16): + Some design dizes are not displayed correctly in Acrobat Reader + (at least version x86 linux 5.0.5), e.g., + the ‘A’ in 10pt is printed below the baseline + (<a href="lm10pt.tex">lm10pt.tex</a>, + <a href="lm10pt.png">lm10pt.png</a>); + the ‘i’ in 11pt is printed above the baseline + (<a href="lm11pt.tex">lm11pt.tex</a>, + <a href="lm11pt.png">lm11pt.png</a>).<br> + <a href="mailto:andreas.lobinger@netsurf.de">Andreas Lobinger</a> + (2004-01-16): + This may occur due to wrong hinting. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>Not touched yet.</em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:ralf.stubner@physik.uni-erlangen.de">Ralf Stubner</a> + (2004-03-12): + The umlauts in ä, ö, and ü as well as in + Ä, Ö, and Ü should be + at the same height as in the EC fonts. + This height is a compromise between the default placement in the + CM fonts and the placement in the CM fonts with + <code>(n)german</code>. Example: + <a href="umlauts.pdf">umlauts.pdf</a>, + <a href="umlauts.tex">umlauts.tex</a>. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> + Not touched yet. We wanted to consult the matter with Hermann + Zapf (there was a little chance) but we haven't managed to + arrange the meeting. + </em> + </li> + <li> + Arni Magnusson (2004-04-16): +Thanks for creating the lmodern fonts. Icelandic LaTeX users have been +using cm-super to render the Þ (thorn) and Ð (eth) characters in type 1, +and although cm-super does a fine job, lmodern seems like a cleaner +solution to the Þ and Ð problem.<br> +I understand you are still working on the fonts, and I'd like to offer my +comments on issues specific to Icelandic characters. If you open the three +attached PDF documents (not provided here, Jacko does have the examples), you will notice mainly three differences: (1) the +upper case Þ should carry its belly higher in lmodern, (2) the comma over +the ú should have a lower angle, and (3) the neck of the ð should be bent +further down. Knuth's bitmaps and cm-super look similar to books printed +in Iceland.<br> +The kerning is also an issue, in light of Knuth's original goal, described +in the TUGboat 21(2): "the rendering [should] be the same in ten years +[...] on everybody's machine it [should] come out the same, not only now +but in the future." An ambitious goal, but at any rate, the smaller the +kerning differences, the better. + </li> + <li> + Morten Høgholm (2004-06-11): +At this years BachoTeX I talked to Boguslaw about adding some more +ligatures to Latin Modern, as we in Danish really need fj. At +<a href="http://www.eur.nl/fw/staff/lokhorst/metafont.html" +>http://www.eur.nl/fw/staff/lokhorst/metafont.html</a> a lot of ligatures are +shown, although not all of them are particular nice. He promised to look +at it. (When you have the standard fi and ij ligatures, you would also +think there should be an fij, right? In polish they have a common flower +named `fijolet' making Boguslaw even more eager to add it... The Dutch use +it in common words as `fijn' as well.) I guess this calls for a special +fontencoding for Danish users. + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: +There are some good ligatures. But for example the fff ligature is useless +in German. You should be careful in adding new ligatures. + </li> + <li> + Martín Darío Safe (2004-07-05): +When using the lm package version 0.92, almost all occurrences of +‘ij’ and ‘IJ’ in your document will output ij +and IJ Dutch digraphs. This seems inadequate for all European languages +but Dutch. Also, this behaviour can prevent you from copying and pasting, +searching, and indexing words containing ‘ij’ on PDF +files for non-Dutch texts. +More description about that topic at +<a href="http://www.mdsafe.com.ar/ijdigraphissue.htm" +>http://www.mdsafe.com.ar/ijdigraphissue.htm</a>. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:eckhard.neber@web.de">Eckhard Neber</a> (2004-07-09): +I asked on dctt why the glyphs of scedilla and tcedilla are different +from the others and was pointed to +<a href="http://www.tug.org/tug2003/preprints/Jackowski/jackowski.pdf" +>http://www.tug.org/tug2003/preprints/Jackowski/jackowski.pdf</a> +It says that this is a feature following the rules of the Romanian +language, but referring to +<a href="http://www.evertype.com/alphabets/turkish.pdf" +>"http://www.evertype.com/alphabets/turkish.pdf</a> +it is handled differently in Turkish. +Is there a possibility to have both variants? + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:ralf.stubner@physik.uni-erlangen.de">Ralf Stubner</a> + (2004-07-17): +Similar to [sS]cedilla, [tT]cedilla should really be a [tT] with cedilla +below. Both, [sS]cedilla and [tT]cedilla should be used in T1/Cork +encoding, as the turkish [sS]cedilla would not be available otherwise, +and using [sS]cedilla and [tT]commacent at the same time would be +inconsistent. [sS]commaacent and [tT]commacent are still available via +the QX encoding. Also, the EC fonts, which can be seen as reference +implementation of the T1/Cork encoding, use [sS]cedilla and [tT]cedilla. + </li> + <li> + Ramón Casares + (2005-06-01): +The Latin Modern fonts are really needed in Spanish, so I am following its +development with much interest. One thing I have notice, comparing last year +printings – from August to be more precise – with printings done with the +new version, is the horizontal placement of the acute accent. In the last +year printing, the acute accent was a little bit to the right, but +acceptable. The current version is too much to the left. And, in the case of +the <code>í</code>, is imposible for me not to notice it every time I +read it. So I would suggest to use the Computer Modern model to place the +acute accent, which is just where it should. + </li> + <li> + Stephan Hennig + (2005-03-08): +In thread "Italicalized old-style figures" from 2004-09-08 on +comp.text.tex there has been some agreement to the opinion CM's +old-style figures do look ugly. Is it possible for LM to provide nicer +old-style figures?<br> +As I'm completely ignorant about font design I don't really know what +makes CM's old-style figures look so boring. And I don't know if a +complete redesign would be necessary to get nicer ones. Maybe just +slanting the current old-style digits <em>slightly</em> could make the +single digits look more individual and less obstrusive? +<br> +<a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: +I think only a complete new design would help. For instance, the 1 and 3 +normally really look different in lining and old-style figures which they +don't for LM. Slanting is wrong in my opinion. + </li> + </ul> + + + <h3>General things</h3> + + <ul> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + Virtual fonts or font encodings for usage of old-style digits + (similar to the eco package). + Small Caps should either use old-style digits or get extra + lining digits with a height that fits to the + ‘minuscles’. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> + Not touched yet. Help is welcome. But remember that each new + encoding means a new set of TFM files. + </em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + I would like proportional digits in addition to the table digits + with same width which are provided up to now. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>Not touched yet.</em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + I think Latin Modern should have a full set of Small Caps fonts + including bold series, italic/slanted shape as well as the sans serif + and type writer families.<br> + For the roman (serif) family of Latin Modern, the bold extended small + caps font shapes are missing + (‘LMCaps##-Bold’ and ‘LMCaps##-BoldItalic’). + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> +Nice idea, although it would require a lot of work (see the remarks +concerning the preparing of the bold typewriter variant). But it should be +considered seriously, as Knuthian small caps are hardly usable in the context +of OpenType fonts (see below). So, perhaps adding alternative small caps +makes sense. + </em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + The slanted small caps font shape ‘LMCaps##-Italic’ + is present, but it is not prepared to be used by LaTeX. + With the package + <a href="ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/slantsc.zip">‘slantsc.sty’</a>, + slanted small capitals + can be used, if the corresponding <code>fd</code> files contain + entries for font shapes <code>scsl</code> and <code>scit</code> for + slanted and italic font shapes, respectively. + <code>t1lmr.fd</code> already includes the font + <code>lmr/m/scsl</code> (Normal weighted slanted small capitals). + For the italic shape, a substitution could be defined: + <br><code>\DeclareFontShape{T1}{lmr}{m}{scit}{<->ssub * + lmr/m/scsl}{}</code>.<br> + The same should be done for new small caps shapes (sans serif, bold, + etc.). + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> +Not touched yet. We'll try to prepare the relevant files in the next release. + </em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + Cpa files for supporting the package <code>pdfcprot</code> should be + added (2003-11-26). + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> + Not touched yet. Help welcome. + </em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:zedler@ei.tum.de">Michael Zedler</a> (2004-01-15): + Build an OpenType version of Latin Modern. Then, SC, OSF, + special ligatures etc. were included and accessable from DTP + programmes. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> +We work on it, but the task is not trivial. For example, metric files +for cmr10 and cmcsc10 differ significantly. Compare the two excerpts +from AFM files: +<br> + cmr10.afm:<br> + <code>C 65 ; WX 750 ; N A ; B 32 0 717 716 ;</code><br> + <code>C 66 ; WX 708.333 ; N B ; B 36 0 651 683 ;</code><br> + <code>C 67 ; WX 722.222 ; N C ; B 56 -22 665 705 ;</code><br> + cmcsc10.afm:<br> + <code>C 65 ; WX 813.879 ; N A ; B 48 0 765 716 ;</code><br> + <code>C 66 ; WX 770.824 ; N B ; B 58 0 698 683 ;</code><br> + <code>C 67 ; WX 786.102 ; N C ; B 72 -22 713 705 ;</code><br> +Small caps are circa 10% wider; therefore, cmcsc10 and cmr10 cannot just +be joined into a single OpenType font with small caps available through +the `smcp' feature. + </em> + <br> + Peter Dyballa (2004-11-25): + Will Robertson has prepared an OpenType version of the Latin + Modern fonts (for usage with XeTeX): + <a href="http://www.mecheng.adelaide.edu.au/~will/tex/" + >http://www.mecheng.adelaide.edu.au/~will/tex/</a> + </li> + <li> + Make Latin Modern fonts usable with Mac computers (2004-01-16). + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> +Once we have OpenType fonts the problem will be solved, will it not? +Needs time, however. + </em> + (I don't know if this is an official work.) + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a> (2004-07-09): + The lmodern.sty style file should get the same version number and + date as the Latin Modern fonts and a description what it does, e.g., + <br> + <code>\ProvidesPackage{lmodern}[2004/04/14 v0.92 Latin Modern fonts]</code> + </li> + <li> + <a href="http://iki.fi/juhtolv">Juhapekka Tolvanen</a> (2004-08-24): + It would be nice, if latin Modern would include also those fonts of +Computer Modern Bright. Right now the only free (in the sense of freedom) +version of Computer Modern Bright in Type 1 format is in that awfully +big cm-super package and hfbright package. + </li> + </ul> + + <hr> + <address><a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a></address> + <!-- Created: Thu Feb 12 11:08:22 MET 1998 --> + <!-- hhmts start --> +Last modified: Tue Sep 6 00:25:48 CEST 2005 +<!-- hhmts end --> + </body> +</html> |