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diff --git a/info/digests/tex-implementors/message.18 b/info/digests/tex-implementors/message.18 new file mode 100644 index 0000000000..ea3eeea371 --- /dev/null +++ b/info/digests/tex-implementors/message.18 @@ -0,0 +1,268 @@ +>From BNB@math.ams.com Mon Oct 16 08:28:17 1989 +Return-Path: <root@ese> +Date: Wed 11 Oct 89 19:36:21-EST +From: bbeeton <BNB@math.ams.com> +Subject: Impending TeX 3.0; verification of mailing list +To: TeX-implementors@math.ams.com +Mail-System-Version: <VAX-MM(229)+TOPSLIB(132)+PONY(228)@MATH.AMS.COM> + +Date: 11 Oct 89 Message No: 018 + +To: TeX implementors and distributors + +From: Barbara Beeton + +Subject: Impending TeX 3.0; verification of mailing list + + +After a long silence (message 17 was sent on 29 June) there is some big +news to report: + +At the TUG meeting, Don Knuth announced some changes to TeX, largely to +support non-English and multilingual environments. A sheet describing +the proposed changes was handed out, but on the assumption that the +contents of that proposal have already reached everyone (and not having +a copy in electronic form), the details are not attached. More about +this later. + +A second major development was Leslie Lamport's decision that, since he +does not intend to develop LaTeX further (he will devote what time he +spends on LaTeX to writing a long-awaited manual on writing style files), +he is willing to turn maintenance and development over to a committee. +A natural head of such a committee was present at the meeting, Frank +Mittelbach, and, subject to Frank's arranging the time to work on the +project, Leslie has expressed his willingness to be consulted and give +advice to this work. There were two well-attended meetings of persons +interested in "the future of LaTeX", gathered at Leslie's request, at +which various strategies were discussed. If memory serves (though I +took notes, I have not yet unpacked them; between the middle of August +and now, I have attended two TeX meetings and two standards meetings, +and have not yet even finished attending to the accumulated mail), the +first stage will consist of such tasks as generalizing the existing +LaTeX macros to be language-independent and performing any pending bug +fixes. After that is complete, more extensive changes, the direction +of which is yet to be decided, will be undertaken. I will try to bring +news of this project as it develops. + +The TeX-related files from Score, except those that were entirely +Score-related, have been made available for ftp from another Stanford +computer, labrea.stanford.edu . This is a VAX 11/750 Unix machine. +The relevant directories are accessible as ~ftp/pub/tex . + +Score was made unavailable to logins, including FTP, on 20 September. +R.I.P. + +Back to the TeX 3.0 announcement. I have received the following message +from Don: + + Date: 25 Sep 89 2223 PDT + From: Don Knuth <DEK@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> + Subject: progress report + + Well, I'm still not finished with TeX version 3.0, but I'm beginning + to see the light at the end of the tunnel! (In other words, I'm + beginning to develop tunnel vision.) + + I've completed a revision of the text for the 17th printing. It was + possible to sneak in all the new stuff with only 95 pages changed. + I've made "errata.five" to document all the changes to The TeXbook + and The MFbook occasioned by the new versions. Almost every change + appears in nine point or eight point type; thus, changes were substantial, + but they affect only macro writer and advanced users to a noticeable degree. + + Vols B and D will change on virtually every page, so there's no + hope to keep those errata uptodate. I have recorded all the substantive + changes in TEX82.BUG and MF84.BUG as usual, but that's all I can do. + Hundreds of modules changed in order to handle each of the four major parts + of this revision. + + I plan to write a brief description of the new features, which do look + good to me at the moment (although I'm still not finished with the + tough algorithm that reconstitutes hyphenated words as discretionaries + when the new ligature conventions are in use). (One of the hardest + things is to make it possible to hyphenate a word that's preceded by + a double-quote ligature and -- with the new ligature conventions --- + then the first character of the word has been altered besides. I need + to stand on my head to handle that.) + + There's still more than a week's work to do, realistically, because + it won't be easy to update TRIP and TRAP. But then I'll have a tape + with brand-new sources, and I'll try to get all the old-timers + psyched up to propagate the new versions to the whole world. + +And a later progress report from Don: + + Date: 06 Oct 89 0310 PDT + From: Don Knuth <DEK@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> + Subject: as of 3:07am today (PST) + + TeX is alive and well. Oh what a TRIP he has just taken. + + (METAFONT is next; that won't be as dangerous an operation) + +It's clear that certain files will have to be retrieved in full, and the +main .WEB files are probably among them; certainly TRIP and TRAP will best +be obtained in new versions. Regarding TRIP, I have received quite a few +inquiries for difference files between past versions and the current one. +Unfortunately, only the latest version has been maintained on any computer +at Stanford, and I have only a few random versions, most of which i can't +identify unambiguously, but they're almost certainly not the same versions +that you have. Therefore, I am still looking for a good way to encode +TRIP and TRAP so that they will survive network mail transmission and be +able to be decoded on the other end. Or perhaps it will be best to ask +for you to help one another and pass the files along after they get +installed in the various archives. Offers of such assistance can be +forwarded through this mailing list by sending a message to + TeX-implementors@Math.AMS.com + +This seems a good time to include the contents of that list so that the +names and addresses can be verified. Please check your own name below, +and look carefully to see if all the implementors and distributors you +know of are included. And then send all corrections and suggestions to +me. Even if you have no comments, please acknowledge this message -- +since the last message the AMS has been switched from the Arpanet to +NSFnet, and there have been some unexplained mail failures. + + +######################################################################## + +This is the TeX implementors mailing list. + +"TeX-implementors":- +! This file contains the mailing list of TeX implementors and !- +! distributors accessible via network mail. This file is !- +! Math.AMS.com::SYSA:[prg.bnb.TeXdistrib]TeXdistrib.list !- +! Last update: 11 October 1989 |- +! !- +! The following are primary maintainers or distributors: !- +! !- +fox@uwavm.acs.washington.edu, ! 16Dec87 Jim Fox, CDC Cyber !- +Bart@cssun.tamu.edu, ! 23Nov88 Bart Childs, DG MV !- +KNM5936@TAMSIGMA.Bitnet, ! 23Nov87 Ken Marsh, HP9000/500 !- +Platt@ccm.UManitoba.CA, ! 24Nov87/8Oct89 Craig Platt, IBM/MVS!- +Guenther@wsuvm1.Bitnet, ! 20Nov87 Dean Guenther, IBM/CMS !- +Simpson@yktvmx.Bitnet, ! 23Nov87 Rick Simpson, IBM RT !- +"well!pti"@lll-crg.llnl.gov, ! 23Nov87 Lance Carnes, PCTeX !- +crawford-j@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu, ! 20Nov87/10Apr89 John Crawford,Prime!- +"tektronix!reed!barry"@uunet.UU.NET, ! 21Nov87 Barry Smith, Textures !- +MacKay@June.cs.Washington.edu, ! 22Nov87 Pierre MacKay, Unix !- +"nls!davek"@uunet.UU.NET, ! 21Nov87/8Oct89 Dave Kellerman, VAX/VMS !- +! !- +! Additional TeX implementors or distributors: !- +! !- +beihl@mcc.com, ! 28Jul89 Gary Beihl, !- +FISICA%ASTRPD.INFN.IT@ICINECA2.BITNET, ! 4Dec87/25Jan89 Max Calvani, !- +! VAX/VMS/DECnet, Italy !- +c3ar@zaphod.uchicago.edu, ! 27Jul89 Walter Carlip, OzTeX, U.S. !- +mike@inrs-telecom.uquebec.ca, ! 20Nov87/1Apr89 Mike Ferguson, MTeX !- +GRZ046@DBNGMD21.Bitnet, ! 20Nov87 Edgar Fu\ss, Atari ST !- +XITIKGUN@DDATHD21.Bitnet, ! 24Nov87 Klaus Guntermann, Atari ST !- +U0275@DGOGWDG5.BITNET, ! 8Oct89 Klaus Heidrich, for !- +! Stefan Lindner, Atari ST !- +GRZTEX@DBNGMD21.Bitnet, ! 20Nov87 Ferdinand Hommes, IBM !- +! "unido!altger!tep"@uunet.UU.NET, 29May88 Klaus Lichtenwalder, C !- +! disabled 30Jun89 after failures on messages 016, 017 !- +"sun!saxony!pjm"@UUNET.UU.NET, ! 24Nov87 Pat Monardo, CommonTeX !- +TNIELAND%FALCON@WPAFB-AAMRL.ARPA, ! 28May88 Ted Nieland, DECUS !- +cczdao%clan.nott.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk, ! 8Sep88 David Osborne, ICL Clan !- +Rokicki@neon.Stanford.edu, ! 20Nov87/5Sep89 Tom Rokicki, Amiga !- +yaski%NTT-20.NTT.JP@relay.cs.net, ! 17Nov88 Yaski Saito, JTeX !- +FE617@DHAFEU11.BITNET, ! 27Oct88 Peter Sawatzki, !- +! Turbo Pascal !- +P920021@DBORUB01.Bitnet, ! 14Nov88 Norbert Schwarz, CDC Cyber !- +jjs@arbortext.com, ! 30Nov87 Jim Sterken, ArborText !- +! "munnari!g.ua.oz.au!ATREVORROW"@uunet.UU.NET, !- +! 15Dec88 Andrew Trevorrow OzTeX/Mac !- +! suspended by request, Apr 89 !- +WSULIVAN@IRLEARN.Bitnet, ! 25Jul88 Wayne Sullivan, SB*TeX !- +"mcvax!ed.ac.uk!G.Toal"@uunet.UU.NET, ! 14Jun88 Graham Toal, Acorn !- +CCFD8%vax2.sussex.ac.uk@ukacrl.Bitnet, ! Brian Williams, UK DECUS !- +! !- +! Implementors or distributors of, e.g., device drivers: !- +! !- +Beebe@Science.Utah.edu, ! 23Nov87 Nelson Beebe, UofUtah !- +Harrison@mahogany.Berkeley.edu, ! 23Nov87 Michael Harrison, VorTeX !- +X066TR@TAMVM1.TAMU.EDU, ! 23Nov87 Tom Reid, TeXrox !- +! !- +! Other primary information re-distributors: !- +! !- +abbottp%uk.ac.aston@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk, ! 29May88 Peter Abbott, UKTeX !- +alien%ese.essex.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk, ! 28Jul88 Adrian Clark, VAX/VMS !- +fps%vaxa.cc.imperial.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk, ! !- +! 4Jan88 Malcolm Clark, TeXline !- +mrd@sun.soe.clarkson.edu, ! 8Sep88 Mike DeCorte, LaTeX-Style !- +UCIR001@FRORS31.Bitnet, ! 28May88 Bernard Gaulle, GUTenberg !- +DLatex@ucbcmsa.Bitnet, ! 24Nov87 Doug Henderson, PC MF !- +DHosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu, ! 20Nov87/27Jul89 Don Hosek, output devices !- +Karney%PPC.MFENET@NMFECC.LLNL.GOV, ! 5Dec87 Charles Karney, VMS exten !- +RZ92@DHDURZ1.Bitnet, ! 23Nov87 Joachim Lammarsch, DANTE !- +jonradel@icecream.princeton.edu, ! 28Jul89 Jon Radel, PC pub-domain !- +R02SCH@DHHDESY3.Bitnet, ! 22Jan88 Peter Schilling, DESY !- +CET1%phoenix.cambridge.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk, ! !- +! 22Nov87 Chris Thompson, UK !- +X230GV@TAMVM1.Bitnet, ! 20Nov87 Glenn Vanderburg, TeX-L !- +! alw%munmurra.mu.oz.au@xx.lcs.mit.edu, 28May88 Alex Warman, Australia !- +! !- +! Other addressees: !- +! !- +A.Eric@GSB-HOW.Stanford.edu, ! 20Nov87 Eric Berg !- +mbb@jessica.Stanford.edu, ! 24Nov87/8Oct89 Malcolm Brown, !- +! former TeXhax !- +garcia@cfa.harvard.edu, ! 8Sep88 Michael Garcia, request !- +! Smithsonian Astrophysics !- +"frame!drf"@Sun.COM, ! 20Nov87/8Oct89 David Fuchs !- +Gropp@cs.Yale.edu, ! 24Nov87 Bill Gropp, former Apollo !- +Ray@theory.lcs.mit.edu, ! 25Nov87 Ray Hirschfeld, MIT, comp !- +LEICHTER@Venus.YCC.Yale.edu, ! 3Mar89 Jerry Leichter, !- +! Adrian Clark's VMS in U.S. !- +ogawa@saturn.arc.nasa.gov, ! 28Sep89 Art Ogawa, request !- +JEPTeX@Venus.TAMU.EDU, ! 28Apr89 J E Pittman, request !- +B35048@ANLCMT.Bitnet, ! 23Nov87 Tony Scandora, !- +! former DECUS, request !- +SCHOEPF@DMZNAT51.Bitnet, ! 3Mar89 Rainer Schoepf, bug 2.98 !- +QZDMGN@DRUEDS2.Bitnet, ! 28Dec88 Reinhard Wonneberger, !- +! request, EDS, Germany !- +Ken@cs.Rochester.edu, ! 20Nov87 Ken Yap, ex-LaTeX-Style !- +rey, ! 1Dec87 Ralph Youngen, AMS !- +dcl, ! 1Dec87 Dan Latterner, MR !- +bnb@seed.ams.com, ! 28May88 verification copy !- +! !- +! paper mail only: !- +! Randy Best, DCS !- +! Richard Kinch, C !- +! Kevin King, Talaris !- +! !- +! still to be added: !- +! ??? , Apollo !- +! ??? , Burroughs !- +! Arthur Flatau !- +! Ralph Stromquist ???, Sperry !- +! Lian Zerafa, FTL, Mac !- +! !- +! asked and declined: !- +! lamport@SRC.DEC.com, 20Nov87 Leslie Lamport, LaTeX !- +!**** Last Line ****! + + +######################################################################## + +%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% +% Character code reference +%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% +% +% Upper case letters: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ +% Lower case letters: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz +% Digits: 0123456789 +% Square, curly, angle braces, parentheses: [] {} <> () +% Backslash, slash, vertical bar: \ / | +% Punctuation: . ? ! , : ; +% Underscore, hyphen, equals sign: _ - = +% Quotes--right left double: ' ` " +%"at", "number" "dollar", "percent", "and": @ # $ % & +% "hat", "star", "plus", "tilde": ^ * + ~ +% +%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% + +[ end of message 018 ] +------- + |