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diff --git a/info/lmodern/lmodern-done.html b/info/lmodern/lmodern-done.html new file mode 100644 index 0000000000..abcc894a34 --- /dev/null +++ b/info/lmodern/lmodern-done.html @@ -0,0 +1,242 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <title>Fulfilled or rejected wishes for Latin Modern</title> + </head> + + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" link="#0000FF" + vlink="#990066" alink="#DD0000"> + + <h1>Fulfilled or rejected wishes for Latin Modern</h1> + + <hr> + <p> + <em> + Unfortunately, I will not be able to maintain this www page + anymore. I am searching for a person that can do the work from now + on. + </em> + </p> + <hr> + + <p> + This page contains the wishes from the page + <a href="lmodern.html">Wishes for Latin Modern</a> that have already + been fulfilled or rejected. + </p> + + <p> + Fulfilled wishes are printed in normal type, rectected wishes are + <strike>canceled like this</strike>. + </p> + + + <h3>Kerning</h3> + + <ul> + <li> + Especially around quotation marks, see + <a href="lm-kerning-086.pdf">lm-kerning-086.pdf</a> and + <a href="lm-kerning.tex">lm-kerning.tex</a>.<br> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:tab@gmx.net">Thilo Barth</a>: + Kerning between d and a should be closer + (<a href="http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=bivsfr%24d70ep%242%40ID-5075.news.uni-berlin.de">his German news posting</a>). + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + I don't agree. + And <a href="mailto:kirpal@rz.uni-leipzig.de">Gerrit Kirpal</a> does + not either. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:w-a-schmidt@gmx.net">Walter Schmidt</a>: + The font cork-lmri10 is lacking negative kerning between W-a. + Please, compare with ecti1000! Note that I did not search + systematically for further deficiencies of this kind. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:w-a-schmidt@gmx.net">Walter Schmidt</a>: + Upright fonts should exhibit some negative kerning between + e-V, with respect to the physical unit ‘eV’. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:w-a-schmidt@gmx.net">Walter Schmidt</a>: + Jörg Knappen's EC fonts include the e-V kerning and other + additional kerning data, which were not present in the old + CM fonts. See the file exrligtb.mf. IMO, these additional + data should be adopted for Latin Modern, too. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:moho01ab@student.cbs.dk">Morten Høgholm</a>: + Kernings with ‘æ’ and ‘å’ + should be improved + (e.g., ‘Tæ’, ‘Tå’, + ‘Væ’, ‘Vå’). + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + Spacing in ‘[…]’, ‘(…)’, + and ‘{…}’ should be symmetric. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:sch.ha@web.de">Harry Schmidt</a> (2003-11-26): + The distance between the letters A and u in the roman, roman/bold, + italic and italic/bold font shapes is too large; there should be some + negative kerning. The same holds for the letters A and v. + Example: ‘Aufgabe’ + </li> + <li> + Reinhardt Kotucha (2003-12-23): + I hope that it isn't too late, but I'm not very happy with Knuth's + ‘Au’ kerning in <code>\rm</code>. + I just saw that Latin Modern has the same problem. + Example: ‘Auto’. + I didn't test <code>\sf</code> and <code>\it</code>. + </li> + <li> + No kerning between the letters k and a in the roman and + roman/bold font shapes. + </li> + <li> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> +All kerning has been prepared from scratch. Previously, the starting point +was AE family of fonts; the starting point for the current version of LM +fonts were kerns of EC fonts. Extending them properly so that all necessary +diacritical characters are kerned was the most tedious part of this stage of +works on LMs. Of course, we exploited several programistic tools prepared +especially for this occasion (AWK scripts), as altogether there are +nearly 300000 kern pairs, circa 6000 per font ;-) + </em> + </li> + </ul> + + <h3>Single glyphs/ligatures</h3> + + <ul> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + The slash (‘/’), backslash (‘\’), and + plus (‘+’) are much nicer than in European Computer + Modern. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + The guillemets are nicer than in European Computer Modern. + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:kirpal@rz.uni-leipzig.de">Gerrit Kirpal</a>: + The text fractions are better because the fraction line is a + solidus instead of a horizontal line. + </li> + <li><strike> + <a href="mailto:stefan@snobis.de">Stefan Nobis</a>: + The horizontal strokes of the ‘[’ and ‘]’ should be + a little bit longer.</strike><br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>Not sure... This is the feature inherited + from CM fonts. We are rather reluctant with respect to the + changing of design.</em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:okumura@matsusaka-u.ac.jp">Haruhiko Okumura</a>: + <code>\textyen</code> (Japanese currency symbol) has a too small + ‘equals’ sign. It would be much better to just say + <code>\def\textyen{Y\llap=}</code>, or somewhere in between. + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>We attempted to improve it.</em> + </li> + <li><strike> + Hans Hagen (2004-01-25): + Example in Latin Modern Mono: ‘cigarettes per day --- and we + humans’. + Looks like cork-cmtt10 has a strange ligature since texnansi-cmtt10 + does ist right. + In cork-lmtt10 I find the following lig:<br> + <code>(LABEL 0 55)</code><br> + <code>(LIG O 55 O 25)</code><br> + <code>(LIG O 177 O 177)</code><br> + <code>(STOP)</code><br> + This gives a funny character an ddefinitely no ‘---’. + I wonder, shouldn't the tt tfm's have no ligatures at all? + (vf's may have them). + </strike> + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> + This _is_ the proper behaviour. If you disassemble ectt1000 you + will see the same figures. The complete set of ectt1000 ligatures + is as follows:<br> + <code>quoteleft + quoteleft --> quotedblleft</code><br> + <code>quoteright + quoteright --> quotedblright</code><br> + <code>hyphen + hyphen --> endash</code><br> + <code>hyphen + hyphenchar --> hyphenchar</code><br> + <code>less + less --> guillemotleft</code><br> + <code>greater + greater --> guillemotright</code><br> + <code>comma + comma --> quotedblbase</code><br> + <code>exclam + quoteleft --> exclamdown</code><br> + <code>question + quoteleft --> questiondown</code><br> + Ask Jörg Knappen about the idea behind this ;-) + </em> + </li> + <li> + <a href="mailto:uwestoehr@web.de">Uwe Stoehr</a> (2003-12-10): + The <code>\textcircled</code> is small with Latin Modern: + <a href="textcircled.tex">textcircled.tex</a>, + <a href="textcircled.pdf">textcircled.pdf</a> + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em>Not touched yet.</em> + <br> + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + Recent versions of textcomp do not have this problem. + </li> + </ul> + + <h3>General things</h3> + + <ul> + <li> + <strike><a href="mailto:kirpal@rz.uni-leipzig.de">Gerrit Kirpal</a>: + Latin Modern should be darker. + <a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a>: + I am not sure. + The fonts could be slightly darker, but not much. + They still have to fit to the mathematical type 1 fonts which + makes a darker lm font problematic.</strike> + <a href="mailto:B.Jackowski@gust.org.pl">Boguslaw Jackowski</a>: + <em>Subtle darkening is feasible for bitmap fonts; with outline ones + it is nearly impossible. Moreover, I agree with you that they must + fit with math.</em> + </li> + <li><strike> + Sometimes, I am missing the bold and the bold italic typewriter font + shape.</strike> + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> + Once upon time Jacko tried to prepare a bold version of cmtt - and + failed. It seems that Knuth's design precludes (acceptably neat) + bold typewriter. The resort would be using courier-like fonts.<br> + Moreover, even if we succeeded in setting parameters properly, + the whole font should be prepared from scratch (remember that + the groundwork LM fonts were AMS/BlueSky Type 1 fonts for CM + family). It would require much work, actually, too much (for us, + at present). + </em><br><strike> + There should be an italic typewriter font with the same character + width as the upright shape.</strike> + <br> + <b>Jacko/Janusz (2004-04-16):</b> <em> +There is an italic typewriter font: lmtti10 (a counterpart to lmtt10). +Adding lmtti8 and lmtti9 with the metric corresponding to lmtt8 and lmtt9, +respectively, would mean -- in our opinion -- an effort not worthy of the +result. Using lmtti10 at 8pt and lmtt10 at 8pt, if needed, yields -- again +in our opinion -- satisfactory results. + </em> + </li> + </ul> + + <hr> + <address><a href="mailto:h.harders@tu-bs.de">Harald Harders</a></address> + <!-- Created: Thu Feb 12 11:08:22 MET 1998 --> + <!-- hhmts start --> +Last modified: Tue Sep 6 00:22:21 CEST 2005 +<!-- hhmts end --> + </body> +</html> |